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[Evangelism] Plone Teachers Kit - evening education material kit for (semi) professional teachers
"Stroß-Radschinski Armin C."
2009-12-01 01:53:50 UTC
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If Plone would be more popular for customers than now, you would lack
a lot of integrators to do the job. This is a temporary drawback for
the future and maybe an obstacle for quicker growth of the community,
even if it is not that well known in the public. In Germany we have
this issue for years with the need for Zope and Python cracks (which
is in fact a paradise for the current ones ;-)

I am thinking for a while about creating a "Plone Teachers Kit" for
evening education, aiming at making Zope and "Plone-the-platform" more
popular for young people or adults to manage their personal content
(if it is beyond a blog!) in a very simple local setup of "Personal-
Plone" on their own PC.

This is focused on making the technology of the platform more
recognized for people when it comes to bigger decisions and the
question is "Do you know Plone?".

This education format is very popular in Germany. A lot of computer
education takes place in the so called VHS VolksHochSchule. Most of
the time you can make a PC "Driver License" and will receive boring
uncreative "WinDoze" Microsoft Office penetration. There are nearly no
ore rare offers on script-programming and office- / business-automation.

If you cover one aspect of this (file-archive and retrieving with
moblie web access) the people sharing the experience are in good
chance becoming local superstars. Plone is in direct competition with
the growing Sharepoint-Marketing of Microsoft. Here people can make
good experience and take this into school, organisations,
universities, companies.

The ideal format of the material should be a book with a DVD with a
live Ubuntu release with Plone containing some instant video
collection of Plone pop-stars impressing with the features even when
it is in english. (even when it is available on Youtube etc.) with
buildout it is a snap to get access to the current releases with web
access.

The book should be contained on the Media as PDF and eBook. The
publication should be jumpstarted an financially backed up by the
Plone Foundation. In fact there will be a full refund of the
investment with financial payback and more important an increasing
impact on the community.

I have not read the Packt book on Plone "Plone 3 for Education". But
it seems much more technical than we need it for this approach.

A good startingpoint for creating such a publication for Plone 4 and 5
in a multi author manner could be setting up a core editor team like
we a have a release manager for the software. Plone should be the
platform for writing and publishing the eBook version too. The german
Plone integrator satzweiss is using a plone setup for creating
professional eBooks. We have also some upcoming Plone2Print products.

Armin Stro?-Radschinski

http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone2print/
http://www.packtpub.com/plone-3-for-education/book
http://www.zopyx.de/projects/SmartPrintNG/
http://www.satzweiss.com/meldungen-news-artikel/belbook-ebook-epub/e-books-nach-rezept-mit-belbook
(german only)
--

Armin Carl Stro?-Radschinski
ACSR industrialdesign
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53842 Troisdorf
Germany

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Dylan Jay
2009-12-01 03:38:19 UTC
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+1 I think an out of the box SDK for personal publishing aimed at
students would be an awesome win for plone.

Here students get taught python but then use php to put up sites and
often have never heard of plone. Pity huh?

Dylan Jay
Technical solution manager
PretaWeb 99552830
Post by "Stroß-Radschinski Armin C."
If Plone would be more popular for customers than now, you would
lack a lot of integrators to do the job. This is a temporary
drawback for the future and maybe an obstacle for quicker growth of
the community, even if it is not that well known in the public. In
Germany we have this issue for years with the need for Zope and
Python cracks (which is in fact a paradise for the current ones ;-)
I am thinking for a while about creating a "Plone Teachers Kit" for
evening education, aiming at making Zope and "Plone-the-platform"
more popular for young people or adults to manage their personal
content (if it is beyond a blog!) in a very simple local setup of
"Personal-Plone" on their own PC.
This is focused on making the technology of the platform more
recognized for people when it comes to bigger decisions and the
question is "Do you know Plone?".
This education format is very popular in Germany. A lot of computer
education takes place in the so called VHS VolksHochSchule. Most of
the time you can make a PC "Driver License" and will receive boring
uncreative "WinDoze" Microsoft Office penetration. There are nearly
no ore rare offers on script-programming and office- / business-
automation.
If you cover one aspect of this (file-archive and retrieving with
moblie web access) the people sharing the experience are in good
chance becoming local superstars. Plone is in direct competition
with the growing Sharepoint-Marketing of Microsoft. Here people can
make good experience and take this into school, organisations,
universities, companies.
The ideal format of the material should be a book with a DVD with a
live Ubuntu release with Plone containing some instant video
collection of Plone pop-stars impressing with the features even when
it is in english. (even when it is available on Youtube etc.) with
buildout it is a snap to get access to the current releases with web
access.
The book should be contained on the Media as PDF and eBook. The
publication should be jumpstarted an financially backed up by the
Plone Foundation. In fact there will be a full refund of the
investment with financial payback and more important an increasing
impact on the community.
I have not read the Packt book on Plone "Plone 3 for Education". But
it seems much more technical than we need it for this approach.
A good startingpoint for creating such a publication for Plone 4 and
5 in a multi author manner could be setting up a core editor team
like we a have a release manager for the software. Plone should be
the platform for writing and publishing the eBook version too. The
german Plone integrator satzweiss is using a plone setup for
creating professional eBooks. We have also some upcoming Plone2Print
products.
Armin Stro?-Radschinski
http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone2print/
http://www.packtpub.com/plone-3-for-education/book
http://www.zopyx.de/projects/SmartPrintNG/
http://www.satzweiss.com/meldungen-news-artikel/belbook-ebook-epub/e-books-nach-rezept-mit-belbook
(german only)
--
Armin Carl Stro?-Radschinski
ACSR industrialdesign
Landgrafenstra?e 32
53842 Troisdorf
Germany
Phone +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94
FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96
http://www.acsr.de
UST. ID Nr: DE154092803
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publications. acsr integrates most of the current bandwidth of
media- and industry-technology into the environment marketing,
manufacturing and enterprise-communications. The network of the
partners associated with acsr delivers solutions tailored precisely
to the needs and budgets of the customer.
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"Stroß-Radschinski Armin C."
2009-11-30 19:39:33 UTC
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If Plone would be more popular for customers than now, you would lack
a lot of integrators to do the job. This is a temporary drawback for
the future and maybe an obstacle for quicker growth of the community,
even if it is not that well known in the public. In Germany we have
this issue for years with the need for Zope and Python cracks (which
is in fact a paradise for the current ones ;-)

I am thinking for a while about creating a "Plone Teachers Kit" for
evening education, aiming at making Zope and "Plone-the-platform" more
popular for young people or adults to manage their personal content
(if it is beyond a blog!) in a very simple local setup of "Personal-
Plone" on their own PC.

This is focused on making the technology of the platform more
recognized for people when it comes to bigger decisions and the
question is "Do you know Plone?".

This education format is very popular in Germany. A lot of computer
education takes place in the so called VHS VolksHochSchule. Most of
the time you can make a PC "Driver License" and will receive boring
uncreative "WinDoze" Microsoft Office penetration. There are nearly no
ore rare offers on script-programming and office- / business-automation.

If you cover one aspect of this (file-archive and retrieving with
moblie web access) the people sharing the experience are in good
chance becoming local superstars. Plone is in direct competition with
the growing Sharepoint-Marketing of Microsoft. Here people can make
good experience and take this into school, organisations,
universities, companies.

The ideal format of the material should be a book with a DVD with a
live Ubuntu release with Plone containing some instant video
collection of Plone pop-stars impressing with the features even when
it is in english. (even when it is available on Youtube etc.) with
buildout it is a snap to get access to the current releases with web
access.

The book should be contained on the Media as PDF and eBook. The
publication should be jumpstarted an financially backed up by the
Plone Foundation. In fact there will be a full refund of the
investment with financial payback and more important an increasing
impact on the community.

I have not read the Packt book on Plone "Plone 3 for Education". But
it seems much more technical than we need it for this approach.

A good startingpoint for creating such a publication for Plone 4 and 5
in a multi author manner could be setting up a core editor team like
we a have a release manager for the software. Plone should be the
platform for writing and publishing the eBook version too. The german
Plone integrator satzweiss is using a plone setup for creating
professional eBooks. We have also some upcoming Plone2Print products.

Armin Stro?-Radschinski

http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone2print/
http://www.packtpub.com/plone-3-for-education/book
http://www.zopyx.de/projects/SmartPrintNG/
http://www.satzweiss.com/meldungen-news-artikel/belbook-ebook-epub/e-books-nach-rezept-mit-belbook
(german only)
--

Armin Carl Stro?-Radschinski
ACSR industrialdesign
Landgrafenstra?e 32
53842 Troisdorf
Germany

Phone +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94
FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96
http://www.acsr.de
eMail info at acsr.de
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publications. acsr integrates most of the current bandwidth of media-
and industry-technology into the environment marketing, manufacturing
and enterprise-communications. The network of the partners associated
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budgets of the customer.
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Dylan Jay
2009-11-30 21:37:38 UTC
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+1 I think an out of the box SDK for personal publishing aimed at
students would be an awesome win for plone.

Here students get taught python but then use php to put up sites and
often have never heard of plone. Pity huh?

Dylan Jay
Technical solution manager
PretaWeb 99552830

On 01/12/2009, at 6:39 AM, "Stro?-Radschinski Armin C." <developer at acsr.d
Post by &quot;Stroß-Radschinski Armin C.&quot;
If Plone would be more popular for customers than now, you would
lack a lot of integrators to do the job. This is a temporary
drawback for the future and maybe an obstacle for quicker growth of
the community, even if it is not that well known in the public. In
Germany we have this issue for years with the need for Zope and
Python cracks (which is in fact a paradise for the current ones ;-)
I am thinking for a while about creating a "Plone Teachers Kit" for
evening education, aiming at making Zope and "Plone-the-platform"
more popular for young people or adults to manage their personal
content (if it is beyond a blog!) in a very simple local setup of
"Personal-Plone" on their own PC.
This is focused on making the technology of the platform more
recognized for people when it comes to bigger decisions and the
question is "Do you know Plone?".
This education format is very popular in Germany. A lot of computer
education takes place in the so called VHS VolksHochSchule. Most of
the time you can make a PC "Driver License" and will receive boring
uncreative "WinDoze" Microsoft Office penetration. There are nearly
no ore rare offers on script-programming and office- / business-
automation.
If you cover one aspect of this (file-archive and retrieving with
moblie web access) the people sharing the experience are in good
chance becoming local superstars. Plone is in direct competition
with the growing Sharepoint-Marketing of Microsoft. Here people can
make good experience and take this into school, organisations,
universities, companies.
The ideal format of the material should be a book with a DVD with a
live Ubuntu release with Plone containing some instant video
collection of Plone pop-stars impressing with the features even when
it is in english. (even when it is available on Youtube etc.) with
buildout it is a snap to get access to the current releases with web
access.
The book should be contained on the Media as PDF and eBook. The
publication should be jumpstarted an financially backed up by the
Plone Foundation. In fact there will be a full refund of the
investment with financial payback and more important an increasing
impact on the community.
I have not read the Packt book on Plone "Plone 3 for Education". But
it seems much more technical than we need it for this approach.
A good startingpoint for creating such a publication for Plone 4 and
5 in a multi author manner could be setting up a core editor team
like we a have a release manager for the software. Plone should be
the platform for writing and publishing the eBook version too. The
german Plone integrator satzweiss is using a plone setup for
creating professional eBooks. We have also some upcoming Plone2Print
products.
Armin Stro?-Radschinski
http://www.coactivate.org/projects/plone2print/
http://www.packtpub.com/plone-3-for-education/book
http://www.zopyx.de/projects/SmartPrintNG/
http://www.satzweiss.com/meldungen-news-artikel/belbook-ebook-epub/e-books-nach-rezept-mit-belbook
(german only)
--
Armin Carl Stro?-Radschinski
ACSR industrialdesign
Landgrafenstra?e 32
53842 Troisdorf
Germany
Phone +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 94
FAX +49 (0) 22 41 / 94 69 96
http://www.acsr.de
eMail info at acsr.de
UST. ID Nr: DE154092803
___________________________
acsr delivers design and innovative functionality for products and
publications. acsr integrates most of the current bandwidth of
media- and industry-technology into the environment marketing,
manufacturing and enterprise-communications. The network of the
partners associated with acsr delivers solutions tailored precisely
to the needs and budgets of the customer.
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